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August 22, 2011

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Whether you agree or not, the issue is about gay people.

There would be no recall if there had been no vote to repeal the health benefits for domestic partners.

People who say they are upset that their vote didn't count are the people who voted to repeal the benefits.

They voted to repeal the benefits because they don't like gay people. That's why the recall organizers are passing out fliers talking about homosexuality being immoral.

It's time El Paso takes on this issue. If El Paso wants to be a homophobic community that excludes people, so be it. But that doesn't mean that people fighting the recall should be afraid to acknowledge what this whole thing really is about: bigotry rearing its ugly head.

Edie,

Your hardheadedness isn't going to help you.

You do realize that if Pastor Brown recalls all three and replaces all three with the most vile bigots on earth that they'll never overturn the ordinance or amend it, don't you?

That's why it's not about the gay thing. Everybody knows that the gays have benefits now and will have benefits after this whole thing blows over - no matter who wins.

Your inability to understand your political reality has you fighting for "gay rights" when they've already been granted. For some reason you don't get that.

What you're doing now would be no different than marching in the street demanding freedom of speech... you already have it.

Problem is the election itself was illegal.

My thoughts were that Cook, Byrd and Ortega should start saying "Adios." The reason behind it and who it benefied (CITY ATTORNEY) has nothing to do with the issue, it is more about 55 to 45 and I still dont care what you say.

NOW I would like to further add Jaime Esparza should PACK his bags now as well. Theresa was not appealing in the last election but she sure as heck looks Good now...GIRL Take some Name and Kick some AS........

Doesn't make a darn bit of difference if it was 99% to 1%. The election was illegal in the first place. You cannot vote to take away a group of citizens Rights and Privileges via a vote.

Well this may be true Texaswoman but when the City put it on the ballot and then waited after they LOST the vote, whether or not it was really legal was moot?

If that is the case then the City should be sued for wasting taxpayers time in allowing a Proposal to be placed on the ballot when it was in fact illegal to place there in the first place.

Either way it is a no win and both sides are screwed. Until then I am liking Caballero more and more these days...

Texaswoman,

You are mistaken - no "right" was taken from someone. You don't have a "right" to health insurance benefits and your significant other surely doesn't have a "right" to them either.

Sorry, you're way off here.

Actually you are. You cannot have an Election to remove the Rights and Privileges of another group of Citizens which is exactly what the Tom and Barney show managed to do.

Texaswoman - just curious, if the ballot initiative had failed and the council over turned it would you be as vocal in defending their action? Again, as David K stated there is no right to health insurance benefits. Once established I agree that selectively offering them is wrong without defined eligibility rules. The conundrum here is that Texas Law with the support of DOMA on the federal level does not recognize gay couples as legal dependents.

It is really interesting to observe how a rag-tag group of church people can have so many people running scared.

McFadden, do you have proof the City Attorney benefited? That is slander if you have no proof.

Texaswoman,

That's most moronic thing I've read in quite a while. You do know this went in front of a judge who laughed it out of court, right?

I really hope you aren't stupid enough to believe what you wrote. You don't even understand what was voted on. It was benefits for dependents, not the employee. I shouldn't have to let you in on that, but I feel sorry for you.

Dianna would the City Attorney benefit from it if the City Attorney opted to enroll a dependent under the benefit that the Mayor overturned is not slanderous, it is a right that the City Attorney could take advantage of if the City Attorney choose to do so.

The fact that this right may not have been available to the City Attorney had it not been overturned by the Mayor is more likely a good reason the Mayor may or may not have persuasive reasoning as to why the Mayor considered it something that should be available?

Now are you suggesting that there is something wrong with the City Attorney? If so, tsk tsk...

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