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January 02, 2013

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Stevo is for it and Cookie thinks it's great.What's the issue?

The point is "why"?

The good news is if you drive by that place its no longer going to be a cesspool of broken wooden tables with junk on them - it will all be hidden behind walls. So maybe it won't seem so Mexico when you drive down Paisano.

It would have been better to simply call it a "mercado" and leave it at that.

David
Circa the summer of 2016.The AAA baseball team, the swing and a miss, ending a losing afternoon game, with temps hanging in the low to mid 100’s.The tourist and local wanting to take in the sights walk throw the down town hell of summer, in the concert jungle, of El Paso. Mariachi music softly echoing through the canyons of revitalized down town El Paso with from time to time pop, sharp zing and echo of an AK 47 round drifting gently across border from Old Mexico giving the experience of Chuco town a very special touch and feel to visitors, tourist and the locals as they buy Mexican products made from all around the world. Just cannot wait to see how cosmopolitan down town El Paso will become. Almost brings tears to my eyes to think about it!

El Paso cannot be cosmopolitan by any stretch as it would require more diversity than now, being about 80%+ Mexican if you include the undocumented, and 90% dumb if you include the local educational attainment level. It's hard to be funky when people can hardly read and AAA won't help that a bit.

Still, when I cruise Segundo,I have to admit to myself that there is a lot more "juice" there than at your average shopping mall. What there is not is a funky ambience. So, a "mercado zone" I think is a good idea and wouldn't cost nearly as much as the $500MM slush fund lined up for other larger and politically lucrative projects (builders contribute, Sugunditos don't).

You'd need the kind of lighting - not $11K Niland bulbs - sidewalk and parking improvements such as was done in the Union Station district, along with street food stands and better parking and a general spruce-up.

I think it is a good idea and I'm surprised you don't, David. What else would you do here? No one is coming from Omaha to see the AAA team play and that's for sure.


rotten peppers,

I'm not a city planner or have any other kind of education that would allow me to venture what would be fun for people and nice for the neighborhood. It's not my thing. I won't pretend that it is.

However, I can tell you when something is idiotic - calling the mercado "Little Mexico" is stupid. It's also insulting to everyone.

Sure - I'm all for what the Rosenbaums are doing. Calling it "Little Mexico?" Hell no.

And nobody is ever going to see El Paso as a destination. You people need to get over it. There are much bigger cities than El Paso that aren't destinations. What they have done is made sure the people who already live there have something to do.

I like the baseball idea a lot. It's something I would do. It's for you - not anyone else.

David, so you are not against a mercado zone, just against calling it "Little Mexico"? Is that right?

I agree EP is no tourist mecca and it is a waste of money to try to make it so. Then again, neither is Omaha, an otherwise pleasant place if you like corn pollen in season.

Since most people are not urban planners, there is no reason for us to be disengenuous. As taxpayers, our opinion counts which is how the stadium passed. And face it, what does the CC know about anything more than an informed citizen? Usually less since they have to divide their attention over many issues rather than focus in on one like an activist does.

For the record here, I have nothing against the AAA project. I am opposed to the structure of the deal ($100MM for Fosterwood and nothing for EP) and how it was done without public input (when they'll have 3 meetings before they build a goddam roundabout).

I enjoy your blog and read it regularly.

At no time during all the discussions regarding a AAA team did anyone on the baseball side say this would attract tourists. It was meant to provide sports entertainment for El Pasoans. The AAA people didn't even include people from Juarez in their pro forma of who would buy tickets etc. The Sun Bowl is 99% supported by locals - not the fans of the teams that come to play here. El Paso is and always will be a fuel and food stop - not a destination.

With the Mexico mercado you might attract different El Pasoans to come downtown and look - but I doubt it.

Downtown is still 10 years away from being a live, work, play destination. Let's at least get the idea of going downtown for entertainment in the minds of El Pasoans and the rest will come eventually.

"Urban Planning" is a term used throughout the U.N. sponsored Agenda 21. This agenda is (and has been) infiltrating our cities, our lifestyles, and our culture for 20 years. Love it or hate it -- at least know wtf is going on.

Take and hour (+) to watch this -- it's been most informative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GykzQWlXJs

Rotten Peppers - there were meetings - at council and certain city reps hosted meetings throughout the city. There was public comment available at every council meeting up to and including the day of the November 6th vote on the HOT tax. And all of the "crazies" that hated this deal had the ability to e-mail, write, call, fax and visit their city reps - and all the reps every damn day and complain - I didn't hear that there was a rush of visitors, emails, faxes or calls to city council members.

You need to get over it. I despise the Fiscal Cliff deal voted on this week by the 535 idiots in DC - but I gotta live with it. I can bitch about it every single damn day and it will not change a thing. Democracy was in action on the Fiscal Cliff deal - like it or not. Democracy was in action on the HOT tax/stadium deal - whether you like it or not. Democracy is ugly and there are always losers in the process - no one gets a 100% win.

With the violence in Juarez, people will shop at the Rosenbaum's Mercado because they no longer feel safe going to Juarez. I think it's a great idea, the Rosenbaum's have replicated the experience without the exposure to the violence or the wait at the bridges. The building has heating and air conditioning.
Shopping in Juarez or downtown El Paso has never been my "thing", but before the violence escalated in Juarez we would have numerous out of town visitors who asked to be taken to Juarez for dinner, shopping & buying alcohol.

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